Ebook: Multiply Your Bitcoins Easily - Loads Of Legit Ways!

Discussion in 'Marketplace' started by kingscrown, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. 2017/12/15 - Decred v1.1.2 released! → Release Notes  → Downloads
  1. tacotime

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    I'll sit down with this thread in the near future and figure out the best way to deal with it. Stress is pretty high right now given the tight deadline we have for mainnet launch, and I want a cooler head to prevail. It can serve as the first case study on what ought to be done in these situations. I've spoken to @kingscrown about it quite some time ago as well.

    At the very least we can open some type of marketplace section on the forum - but that would need some relationship to Decred as well (which is complicated by the fact that mainnet isn't live yet). Trading something for decred is fine if it's restricted to a section on the forum and then it's up to people whether they want to engage in what's offered or not.
     
  2. sambiohazard

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    Ok fair enough, i was just worried about people getting scammed in name of decred or by following a link from decred forum.
     
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  3. koolykg

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    I concure!!!
     
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  5. Acidyo

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    Yeah, I honestly don't know how you are still a moderator on our forums, kingscrown.

    The type of ponzis you spread is what a lot of real life friends of mine are losing money into.

    We are gonna need a talk on the moderator board about this.
     
  6. kingscrown

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  7. kingscrown

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    wheres any PONZI mentioned here? i DARE YOU. if there is ANY ponzi here im quitting and if there is none - you quit.

    DEAL ?
     
  8. koolykg

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    Here we go again. You and your scam of a book again.
     
  9. kingscrown

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    Dont think you rad even FREE version to know whats it about.

    Mods have removed warning here bacuce they know whats inside.

    So... read and decide if its scam or not.

    Some hints:

    Tells how to invest in BitFinex marning trading
    Tells how to buy cheaper goods from Amazon
    Tells how to buy cheaper BTC from Coinbase.

    So whos the scammer and whos an dummy now? :)

    Not my fault you guys are so new to cryptos you dont know there is some legit ways to make more.
     
  10. Rune S

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    Huhh BitFinex marning trading? Come on, : DISCLAIMER: As much as I like Bitfinex and recommend them for Trading, I do not endorse the site in any way. I do not know if they’ll close down today, tomorrow, or a year from now. I also do not know how they handle their funds internally and whether that will pose a problem in the near future. Please trade with caution, and only use money you can afford to lose. If you hear anything negative (e.g. withdrawl issues etc.) about Bitfinex on Reddit/Bitcointalk/Twitter, please make sure to let me know too!
    https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/a-b...y-you-shouldnt-be-trading-bitfinex-exchanges/

    Thank you for the hints, i didnt even bather to check the other 2. I mean why are you on this forum? I dont think you are here to help people...seriously?
     
  11. ClokworkGremlin

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    Whatever I want.
    #31 ClokworkGremlin, Feb 15, 2016
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    OK come on guys, let's be reasonable here. A Ponzi scheme is a particular kind of scam. Not all scams are Ponzi schemes, and if you say he's running a Ponzi scheme and he isn't, then all he has to do is prove that it's not a Ponzi scheme.

    Kingscrown isn't (I assume) telling you to get rich by selling things to other people. He's not telling you to give him money so that you can have membership into a group that will give you back money. I've interviewed with groups that do this (Don't go to work or consolidate your debt through Primerica, for example), this is not one.

    That's not to say it isn't a scam, just that it's not a Ponzi scheme.

    The scam is that the advice in the book is worthless at best, actively harmful at worst, and all freely available elsewhere. Remember earlier when I said "The best way to make money with a book about making money is to write the book?"
    [edit]OK, so now that I actually know what Margin trading is: Don't do it. You're going into debt on a gamble that you'll be able to earn back enough to pay for your debt plus the interest. This is a really good way to screw yourself badly. If you're thinking of dabbling in margin trading, save your time and just send your Bitcoins to me(18aJ77kcSsrzNzkbhCjeMnCSUJAZmaHTVk). It'll be cheaper than a book telling you to do things that will lose you money fast.
    Purse.io. Membership is free. People offer Bitcoins for you to buy them stuff. The exchange rate is usually pretty lousy if you're the one buying, it's supposed to be a way to get rid of unwanted gift cards. If you're the one with the Bitcoins, it's not too bad. It's basically an escrow service. I have an account, but between the inflated price of Bitcoins and the lack of privacy for purchases, I don't see myself ever using it.
    And we're back to currency speculation.

    Scam? Eh. Ponzi scheme? No. Stop calling it a Ponzi scheme, you're giving him a free argument.

    It's a worthless product is all.
     
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  12. Acidyo

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    Thank you for looking more into it, to be honest I may have named it a ponzi without knowing too much what was in the e-book, and I apologize for that. My mind probably automatically added this into the other stuff I have read him write over forums and it went to the ponzi thing because of some troubles I've been having IRL where friends of mine have "invested" their money into onecoin (this is actually something that is underrated at the moment and is in dire need for more people to make others aware of the amounts they are scamming people on a daily basis).

    Just like kingscrowns e-book, onecoin.eu offers "education in trading and growing your money" and also "tokens" that are supposedly mining onecoins in a close-sourced environment, owned by shady people with a lot of lies on their track records. Everything can be googled but they do a good job closing threads and hiding proof of how they may be scamming everyone who isn't too knowledgeable about cryptocurrencies in general and only know about the bitcoin history and how people have profited from it. I have been making some posts about it over at forum.bitcoin.com but this really needs more awareness since over 1.3 million are already members and probably throwing their money away to referrals who receive 10% of their "friends" they trick into it for own gain.

    So I may have misjudged his e-book a bit prematurely but like you said. Nothing good can come out of it for the people that may buy into it. It'll be a big gamble, just like my margin trading has gone lately.


    Thanks for putting it so nicely. My english isn't my first language and you said it 10 times better than how I could've expressed the situation.
     
  13. michael sørensen

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    I've seen free versions, explaining how betting will double your money.
    - Always the same trick. - You loose, you double your bet. You loose again, you double it. All the way, until you win and go back to the original bet.
    ^ Only "sure way" to make a profit on gambling, and even with that. You'd still loose everything, if you lack the last balance, for the last bet.

    And seriously. Why pay for the book. When there's free books, on the subject. All with factual information, that might actually make you an easy coin?
     
  14. michael sørensen

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    - Thanks. I now know, that I should be wary, of anything connected to Onecoin. I appreciate that.
     
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  15. ClokworkGremlin

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    Whatever I want.
    As I said before, I wrote a simulation on Martingale, and while it won't lose all your money faster than "always bet half," with a large number of players each going 1000 rounds, not a single player lasted more than 40 bets.

    Of course, I didn't do the reset. I doubt that would make much of a difference, though.

    The only surefire way to make money in gambling is to own the casino so you can set the odds. That's how Vegas works.
     
  16. michael sørensen

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    - I used the method, a couple of years ago. But you either need a shitload of money to begin with, or start out with the tiniest ammounts, since a few doubles, vastly increase the bet.
    ^ It's probably the easiest way, to make a buck on gambling. Unless you're great at statistisks, and just do Black Jack.

    I completely agree though. - The only one profitting from a book like that. Is the author.
     
  17. Lee Sharp

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    That or play blackjack natural, or poker where you play against the player, not the house. But those take work and skill...
     

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