Launch Mainnet Stake Pools Are Launching

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  2. girino

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    decredbrasil dot com Also launched, but my comment is waiting for moderator approval because it contains links and i still marked as "new member" in the forum (sorry folks, i read more than i post). if you could please include it on the list.
     
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    Should be all good now. See if you can post a dedicated thread in PoS pools as well, so it can be stickied and new users can post there on matters specific to https://stake.decredbrasil.com.

    Thanks! Thought I already had those in there. Updated.
     
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    Excited to see your changes. What are you using to power your AI? Need a developer?
     
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    Hi Decred Community!

    https://DCRStakes.com is officially live and ready for the prime time. We'll be updating the site in the near future with new features (notifications for tickets, prices, etc). Come get yo' stake on!
     
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    #28 Dyrk, Jun 2, 2016
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    I've added table with stakepools comparison at the bottom of the page here: https://dcrstats.com
    You can see percentage of total network tickets near amount of "Live" tickets. So it's easy to track who has reached 5%

    PS: let me know if you want to see more stats in this table. For example, I can add total stakepools subsidy in DCR and USD or something else.
     
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    #29 Dyrk, Jun 6, 2016
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    Good news!
    We reached 1% of total network tickets in our stakepool. So if you are not yet in, hurry to take your place, they are limited until August.

    "All Stakepools are equal, but some Stakepools are more equal than others" (c) George Orwell:
    https://stakepool.dcrstats.com/
     
  10. girino

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    Brasil Decred pool now has a widget with advice for buying tickets. It compares current price, estimated next price and average ticket price in pool, and advises you when it's time to buy. You can check the widget on out pool front page:https://stake.decredbrasil.com/

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    #32 Dyrk, Jun 26, 2016
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    Hey @jolan @_ingsoc, have you seen votes statistic? The most part of the blocks have 3 or 4 votes for a long time: https://mainnet.decred.org/blocks

    Maybe something wrong with the PoW-pools configurations. I think it's a good time to implement a voting system: "NO" to any previous block, which included less than 5 votes. Do you think this is possible?

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  13. jyap

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    I've definitely noticed this 3/4 votes recently. Possibly due to Decred v0.1.6 (just speculating) or possibly a new large miner/mining pool?
     
  14. .m.

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    I think it is a good thing to watch the network and statistic and to provide feedback, but I would not base voting against blocks on just "maybe something is wrong with POW pools".
    I'll add some rants to the Flame the devs thread.
     
  15. Dyrk

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    Things are pretty obvious. We don't want to lose our money. We want to see 5 votes in each block. We want to destroy all blocks, which have less than 5 votes.

    PS: as a stakepool operator I receive hundreds of emails and personal messages about missed tickets. And as a stakepool operator I must do something to protect our PoS-miners.
     
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    #36 jyap, Jun 26, 2016
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    In the last 18 hrs, YiiMP has 3 out of 8 blocks with 5 votes.

    Prior to that, consistently 5 vote blocks.. Some bigger issue it seems.. I'm leaning towards a 0.1.6 regression

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    Screen Shot 2016-06-26 at 12.04.32 AM.png

    Largest pool Coinmine.pl also mostly has blocks with less than 5 votes. Amount column should be 17+ for 5 Vote blocks.
     
  18. Myagui

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    A major stake holder (mega-whale-sized) going offline would also cause this perhaps?
    Also, dunno if at all related, but the 1st/official stakepool, seems to be hung up when I try to check their stats. Maybe the pool is down?
     
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  19. jyap

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    Yes, a valid theory.
     
  20. jy-p

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    I suspect this is related to PoW pools being configured incorrectly. Since Company 0 casts many votes, I have recently noticed a steady rate of missed and then revoked tickets on votes that were cast. I worked with @woot to verify that these missed votes were propagating correctly to the dcrd nodes for his stakepool, suggesting the votes are almost certainly reaching the pools, but not making it into blocks mined by their miners. The only debugging step not yet taken is verifying when votes are arriving at the dcrd for the PoW pools.

    Based on the data supplied by woot, all the blocks where c0 missed tickets had a time spread of 2-3 seconds between the arrival of the first and the last vote, which suggests that PoW pools are pushing work to their miners before all votes have arrived, e.g. pool receives 3 or 4 votes and immediately pushes work. Waiting as little as 3 seconds after receiving the first vote to push work could give a working solution, but I am unsure of any additional latencies generated in the path where PoW pools push work to miners. A more conservative delay of 5 seconds would be more likely to ensure higher vote counts, but it may put a pool at a disadvantage due it being a few seconds behind other more aggressive pools that push work sooner.

    I have corresponded with @ocminer on the matter a couple times in the past few weeks and will reach out again to see if we can get the bottom of this.
     
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